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10 Features The Best Lathe Mill Combos All Have

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Machinists looking for a new addition to their machine shop or home workshop face several choices. Which lathe or mill is the best, how large should they be, and which make and model?

For machinists working in small spaces, lathe/mill combination machines provide an attractive choice. These are typically small lathes with a built-in milling turret that also acts as a drill press. These combos offer machinists the flexibility of multiple operations in a single machine.

Anyone interested in a lathe and mill combo should consider a few things before making a final decision. Here are ten things to know about purchasing your combination lathe machine, milling machine, and drilling machine.

1. What is the Primary Purpose of the Lathe/Mill Combo?

A combo lathe/mill machine shines at jobbing shop projects where the quantities are limited and require turning and milling operations. Of course, they can also be used in production work and are especially useful for secondary operations. As long as you anticipate booking a lathe and millwork, a combo machine should fit the bill.

However, if you intend to machine long shafts between centers, you should ensure you get a steady rest. Other features are a four-way turret tool post to hold the lathe tools and a rotating vise.

2. What are Your Machine Size Requirements?

The DIY machinist or home shop hobbyist will usually appreciate the reduced footprint of a lathe/mill combo. With space being at a premium in a small shop, the space-saving design of a benchtop lathe and mill combo makes it a significant benefit.

However, a reduced footprint can quickly turn into a disadvantage if you start taking on larger workpieces that donā€™t fit on your worktable. Think about the size of the pieces you might be working on in the future, and match it with a larger lathe/mill combo that gives you the flexibility to machine more significant parts. In any case, be sure to check the comboā€™s cross-slide travel distance.

3. What is the Horsepower of the Combination Lathe and Mill?

Will you be working primarily on metalworking or woodworking projects? Although 3/4 horsepower is typical for a lathe/mill combo and will work for either, if you want to use the turning portion exclusively as a metal lathe, consider 2 HP on the lathe motor and a 3/4 HP motor on the mill. If wood turning is your thing and you plan to use it as a wood lathe, the comboā€™s low horsepower might not trouble you.

4. Does the Combo Operate at Variable Speeds?

You want a machine with variable speeds on the lathe and mill. Also, check the spindle speed range since some will have a limit of 1300 RPMs, while others will span from 50 to 2500 RPMs. Make sure the speed range covers the types of work you need.

5. What is the Spindle Bore Size?

Spindle bore size refers to the maximum diameter of stock that you can feed through the headstock. So, if the machine has a spindle bore of 1.1″ inches, you can work on a long piece of 1ā€ diameter stock. However, if you want to machine short components of 1.25ā€ stock, youā€™ll have to cut it to length ahead of time on a bandsaw since it wonā€™t fit through the metal latheā€™s spindle bore.

6. Does It Come With a Digital Readout?

A digital readout (DRO) gives you so much essential information you donā€™t want to be without. If your combo has not provided a DRO from the factory, at least ensure it has mounting holes so you can easily add one later.

7. What Type of Drill Chuck is Provided?

Although there are two kinds of drill chucksā€”keyless and keyed, most machinists prefer keyed chucks since they typically have less runout. Also, check that a chuck arbor comes with the machine. The arbor is a steel shaft with two ends, one ground to fit into the machineā€™s tailstock and the other ground to fit into the rear of the drill chuck for holding drill bits and other cutting tools.

A 15-pc. collet toolset should also come with the mini lathe since collets help prevent the ā€œwhippingā€ action from long pieces of small diameter stock sticking out from the back of the tailstock.

8. Find Out if a Self-Centering 3-Jaw Chuck is Part of the Package

A lathe chuck holds the workpiece for turning or drilling. Each jaw of a three-jaw chuck fits into a scroll plate, meaning the jaws move simultaneously when tightened by the chuck wrench. Thus, the term self-centering chuck.

9. Who is the Manufacturer of the Combo Lathe/Mill?

Lathe/mill combination machines can work well, but much depends on the manufacturer, like other machine tools. If it isnā€™t a high-quality brand, you could lose many of the benefits of the machine to inferior quality.

For any machine tool to produce excellent parts, it must be built sturdy to face the challenges of the machine shop. And that goes for routers, grinder machines, table saws, or bench lathes. So, check out the comboā€™s manufacturer to be confident in your choice.

As mentioned, identify the primary purpose of your machine and any size requirements. Be sure you need the flexibility of a combination lathe and mill because it might be that a dedicated machine could work more appropriately for your purposes.

10. Might a Dedicated Machine Be Better?

For example, suppose you anticipate a steady supply of long production runs for a lathe in the future. In that case, you are better off investing in a compact CNC turning center and adding a space-saving desktop mill for any milling and drilling tasks. Since combination lathe/mill machines generally surrender power for versatility, manufacturing more challenging materials or significant production runs is better achieved on a single-purpose machine.

Check Out Our Lineup of Small-Footprint Lathes and Mills

After you have determined that two separate machines would better serve your needs, your next step is to find machine tools of the highest quality and most compact footprint for your work area. Advanced lathes and mills that provide the flexibility of operating in either manual or CNC mode on a smaller footprint could be the answer.

The CNC 1340 Turning Center from CNC Masters is an elite lathe seamlessly converting between CNC and manual modes. The 1340 and its bigger counterpart, the 1440, are rugged machines designed for the hobbyist or professional to deliver high-level performance while providing exceptional value. In addition to all the features of more expensive lathes, our space-saving turning centers offer a thread-cutting range of 4 to 112 TPI or metric threads from 0.25 to 11.

Regarding versatility, precision, and conserving precious space, our desktop CNC milling machines are second to none. With a range of features, including variable spindle speed, easy-to-learn control software, user-friendly controls, and a robust power supply, our desktop mills provide the elements of higher-priced machine tools combined with the convenience of a milling machine that fits conveniently in a small workshop.

AtĀ CNC Masters, we have been providingĀ high-qualityĀ CNC mills,Ā milling machines, andĀ CNC lathesĀ for over 20 years. Business owners,Ā machinists, scientists, researchers, teachers, and evenĀ hobbyistsĀ have discovered our California-based company’s superior quality, competitive prices, professional service, and an excellent warranty.

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About Peter Jacobs

Peter Jacobs is the Senior Director of Marketing at CNC Masters, a leading supplier of CNC mills, milling machines, and CNC lathes. He is actively involved in manufacturing processes and regularly contributes his insights for various blogs in CNC machining, 3D printing, rapid tooling, injection molding, metal casting, and manufacturing in general. You can connect with him on his LinkedIn.

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29. Create a Peck Drilling Program in Circular or Rectangular Patterns
Using the Circular or Rectangular Drilling Wizards, you can program the machine to drill an un-limited series of holes along the X and Y planes. Program it to drill straight through to your total depth, use a high-speed pecking cycle, or deep hole pecking cycle. You can program the cut-in depth and return point for a controlled peck drill application to maximize chip clearance.

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20. Change up to 30 tools with compensation, and store your tool offsets for other programs
The MX supports…

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21. Use the optional ATC rack up to 8 tools for milling, drilling, and rigid tapping applications
The CNC Masters Automatic Tool Changer Rack and Tools (US Patent 9,827,640B2) can be added to any CNC Masters Milling Machine built with the rigid tapping encoder option. The tutorial will guide you through the set-up procedure using the ATC tools.

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22. Use the optional Rigid Tapping Wizard without the need for tapping head attachments
When you order your CNC Masters machine, have it built with the optional rigid tapping encoder. You can take any drill cycle program and replace the top line with a tapping code created by the wizard to tap your series of holes up to 1/2ā€ in diameter.

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23. Use the optional Digital Probe to scan the profile and/or pockets of your fun/hobby type designs to write your tool path program and machine out a duplicate of your original design To ā€œsurfaceā€ scan an object, you can program the probe along the X or Y plane. The stylus will travel over the part starting on the left side front corner of the object and work its way to the end of the part on the right side. Depending on how the stylus moves, it will record linear and interpolated movements along the X, Y, and Z planes directly on the MX Editor.
To ā€œpocketā€ scan an object containing a closed pocket such as circles or squares, the scan will start from the top front, work its way inside of the pocket, and scan the entire perimeter of the pocket.
Under the Setup of the MX software you will find the Probe Tab which will allow you to calibrate and program your probe. Your ā€œProbe Stepā€, ā€œFeedā€, and ā€œData Filterā€ can also be changed on the fly while the probe is in the middle of scanning your object.

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24. Use work offsets G54-G59 for nesting applications
The work offsets offer you a way to program up to six different machining locations. Itā€™s like having multiple 0.0 locations for different parts. This is very useful especially when using sub-routines/nesting applications.

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25. Create a Rectangular Pocket / Slot with our selection of Wizards to help you build a tool path program
The Cycle Wizards for the mill or lathe makes it easy to create a simple tool path without needing to use a CAD and CAM software.
On this Wizard, the Rectangular Pocket / Slots, can be used to form a deep rectangular pocket into your material or machine a slot duplicating as many passes needed to its total depth.

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26. Create a Circular Pocket Wizard
Input the total diameter, the step down, and total depth and the code will be generated.

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27. Do Thread Milling using a single point cutter Wizard

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28. Cut a gear out using the Cut Gear Wizard with the optional Fourth Axis

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19. Disable the axis motors to manually hand crank each axis into place
Easily de-energize the axis motors by clicking [Disable Motors] to crank each axis by hand, and then press [Reset Control] to re-energize the axis motors.

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30. The MX interface can easily be interchanged from Mill Mode to Lathe Mode
Use this interface for your CNC Masters Lathe. It contains all the same user-friendly features and functions that comes in Mill Mode. Simply go to the Setup page and change the interface.

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31. Use Tool Change Compensation or the optional Auto Tool Changer Turret if your application requires more than one tool in a single program
You can offset the length and angle of each tool and record it under Tools in your Setup. The program will automatically pause the latheā€™s movement and spindle allowing you to change out your tool, or allowing the optional ATC Turret to quickly turn to its next tool and continue machining.
On the MX interface, you also have four Tool Position buttons. Select your desired T position, and the auto tool post will quickly turn and lock itself to that position.

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32. Use the Lathe Wizard Threading Cycle to help you program your latheā€™s internal or external threads in inches or metric

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33. Use the Lathe Wizard Turning / Boring Cycle to help you program simple turning and boring cycles without having to go through a CAM or writing a long program with multiple passes

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34. Use the Lathe Wizard Peck Drilling Cycle to help you program your drill applications or for face grooving

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35. Facing / Grooving / Part Off Cycle Wizards ā€“ with Constant Surface Speed
These cycles can be used with Constant Surface Speed allowing the spindle speed to increase automatically as the diameter of the part decreases giving your application a consistent workpiece finish. With CSS built into the wizard, there is no need to break down the cycle into multiple paths and multiple spindle speed changes.

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36. This is our list of supported G and M codes which can be found under Tools > G Code/ M Code List in the MX
If you plan to use a third-party CAM software to generate your tool path program, use a generic FANUC post processor and edit it to match our list of codes. As an option, we also sell Visual mill/turn CAM software which comes with a guaranteed post processor for our machines to easily generate your tool path programs based on your CAD drawings.

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10. Run each tool path independently to study its movement
1. Run the machine on Trace mode. You can run each tool path independently, one line at a time to study the tool path movement on the machine to verify the position of the application and if any fixture/vise is in the way of the cutterā€™s path.

2. You can also verify your program by clicking on the Trace and Draw buttons together. This will allow you to view each tool path independently one line at a time in the Draw Window.

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2. Clutter Free Interface
The MX is engineered for the CNC MASTERS machine so you do not have to fiddle with a detailed complicated configuration that can be overwhelming. Just load in the MX and start machining!2. Clutter Free Interface
The MX is engineered for the CNC MASTERS machine so you do not have to fiddle with a detailed complicated configuration that can be overwhelming. Just load in the MX and start machining!

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3. Features Tour and Tutorials Included
The Features Tour will give you a quick run-down on all the features the MX can do for you. The Tutorials are easy to follow even for the first time CNC machinist.
Feel free to download the MX on any of your computers. We recommend downloading the MX along with your CAD and CAM software there at the comfort of your office computer to generate your tool path programs. You donā€™t need to be hooked up to the machine either to test your program in simulation mode.

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4. Navigate and Edit Your Program through the MX interface with Ease
With a few clicks of the mouse or using touch screen technology, you can easily navigate through the MX interface importing saved programs into the Editor from the File drop down menu. Using standard windows features to edit your program you can then lock the Editor Screen to avoid accidental editing, and if you need to insert a line in the middle of a program, just click on [ReNum] to re-number your tool path list.
You can create a program or import CAM generated G-code tool paths into the Editor
The X Y and Z W arrow jog buttons are displayed from the point of view of the cutter to avoid confusion when the table and saddle are moving. You can also adjust your spindle speed and coolant control while jogging each axis.

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5. Feed Hold ā€“ Pause in the Middle of your Program
Feed Hold lets you pause in the middle of a program. From there you can step through your program one line at time while opting to shut the spindle off and then resume your program.
You can also write PAUSE in the middle of your program and jog each axis independently while your program is in pause mode.

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6. Hot Keys
Hot Keys is an alternative method to easily control your machine using your hard or touch screen keyboard. One can press P to pause a program, press S to turn Spindle On, G to run a program, Space Bar to Stop, J to record your individual movements one line at a time to create a program in teach mode.

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7. Pick Menu ā€“ for conversational mode programming
Write FANUC style G-codes directly into the Editor or select commands off the [Pick] menu and write your tool path program in conversational mode such as what is written in the Editor box. You can even mix between conversation commands and G-codes in the same program.

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8. Pick Menu List of Options
Use commands such as MOVE, SPINDLE ON/OFF, COOLANT ON/OFF, PAUSE, DELAY, GO HOMEā€¦. to write your tool path programs in conversational mode.

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9. Draw the Tool Path to verify it before pressing Go
Hit Draw to view your tool path program drawing, check out its run time, or even simulate the tool path in 3D mode. This can be helpful to quickly verify your program before running it. You can also slow down or speed up the drawing or simulation process.
You can also hit Go within the Draw Window itself to verify the cutterā€™s position on the machine. The current tool path will be highlighted and simultaneously draw out the next path so you can verify what the cutter will be doing next on the program.

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MX Software ā€“ Easy to Use, Easy to Learn ā€“ Included with your machine purchase
The MX software is designed to work seamlessly with your CNC Masters machine. It is made to work with Windows PC ā€“ desktop, laptop, or an all in one ā€“ on standard USB. Use it on Windows 8 or 10 64-bit operating systems.
No internal conversion printer/serial port to USB software or additional conversion hardware is used with the MX.

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11. Counters display in Inches or Millimeters ā€“ Continuous Feed
1. When running a program, the counters will display a ā€œreal-timeā€ readout while the machine is in CNC operation without counting ahead of the movement.
2. The current tool path is highlighted while the machine is in operation without causing slight interruptions/pauses as the software feeds the tool path to the machine. The MX internally interprets a program ten lines ahead to allow for ā€œcontinuous machiningā€ avoiding slight interruptions as the machine waits for its next tool path command.
3. ā€œRun Timeā€ tells you how long it takes to run your tool path program.

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12. Use the ā€œGo From Lineā€ command to start in the middle of your program
If you ever need to begin your program from somewhere in the middle of it, use [Go From Line] which you can find under Tools. The Help guide will walk you through how to position the cutter without losing its position on the machine.

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13. Exact Motion Distance without over-stepping on an axis while jogging
Use ā€œRelative ONā€ to enter a specific coordinate to jog any of your axes to an exact location without having to write a program. Itā€™s like using ā€œpower feedā€ but easier. You can jog an exact distance on any of the axes without needing to keep the key pressed down and mistakenly over-step the movement releasing your finger too slowly off the jog button.
Letā€™s say you need to drill a hole exactly 0.525ā€ using the Z. So you enter 0.525 in the Z box. Next, adjust the JOG FEED RATE slider for the desired feed rate. Then ā€œclick onceā€ on the +Z or -Z button to activate the travel. In this case you click once the -Z button first to drill the hole exactly 0.525ā€. Then click once on the +Z button to drive the axis back up 0.525ā€.

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14. Teach Mode ā€“ Jog Input
You can create a tool path program by storing each point-to-point movement by simply jogging an axis one at a time. Click on either of the Jog Input buttons to store each movement on the Editor Screen. You can then add Spindle ON, feed commands, and press GO to run the new program as needed. This is a great feature to help you learn to create a program by the movements you make on the machine without necessarily writing out an entire program first.

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15. Override on the fly to adjust the Jog Feed to Rapid or the Spindle Speed during the middle of a program
1. Jog Feed and Rapid with Override: You can adjust feeds using the slider from slow minimum 0.1ā€³ per minute to a rapid of 100ā€³ per minute of travel. You can even micro-step your jog as low as 0.01ā€/min. The [-][+] buttons allow you to fine tune feeds in 5% increments while the program is in motion.
2. Spindle Speed with Override: You can adjust speeds using the slider from a slow minimum RPM to the max RPM according to the machine setup. The [-][+] buttons allow you to fine tune feeds in 5% increments while the program is in motion.

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16. Adjust Counters using Pre-Set if you cannot begin the program from 0.00
In a situation where you cannot begin your cutter at itā€™s 0.00 location, you can ā€œPre-Setā€ directly into the counters by typing in your beginning coordinate. You can press Go from here to run your program. You can also ā€œzero allā€ or ā€œzeroā€ your counters independently. With one click of the [Return to 0.0] button, all axes will travel back to its respective 0.0 on the machine.

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17. Set and Save your 0.00 position for future runs
Set and save your 0.00 position on the machine. These coordinates will be recorded as the first line of the program in the Editor Screen. Should you desire to return to this program at a later date, you only have to click on the Set Zero Return button. This will command the machine to automatically jog each axis to its saved ā€œsetā€ 0.00 position according to the recorded coordinates at the first line of the program.

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18. Create a ā€œHomeā€ position to clear your application and run multiple times
Letā€™s say you need to machine one application times 100 pieces. This usually requires a jig to retain that physical 0.00 position. But in this case, you want the program to end with a clearance of the axes to easily switch out the next piece of stock and start again. With Save Home, you have the ability to save this offset (home) position while still retaining your Set Zero position where the machine will mill your part out. Pressing [Save Home] will record this new position under the Set Zero line in your program.
Pressing [Go Home] will jog your axes back to your ā€œsaved homeā€ position where you originally pressed the Save Home command. You can also input GO_HOME from the Pick Menu as its own tool path in your program. At the completion of your program the axes will end at your Home position. Replace your part, then press [Return to 0.0] button to allow the axes to return to its zero position, and press Go to start your next run.

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